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Showing posts with label wisteria square. Show all posts
Showing posts with label wisteria square. Show all posts

Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Wisteria Square Property Should NOT Be Used for Amphitheater

 Wisteria Square/Photo by Darla Dixon
Why turning the "bridge to nowhere" on the Wisteria Drive/Wisteria Square property is not a good idea.

On October 20th, Kelly Kautz pointed criticism at Barbara Bender during the mayoral debate. Kelly Kautz charged that Barbara Bender wanted to spend $200,000 on a sound stage for the Snellville Towne Green (the green field off of Oak Road near US78/Main Street that is used for the Snellville Farmers' Market and various entertainment events now. Barbara Bender corrected Kelly Kautz on that. The figure proposed was actually $120,000.

Oh, why are people always picking on Kelly Kautz? [Insert my sad, pouty face here] She was only off by a mere $80,000. Let me repeat that again...Kelly Kautz, a candidate who wants to be mayor and handle our city budget was off by EIGHTY. THOUSAND. DOLLARS.

Kelly Kautz proposed an idea that probably a lot of people support. That is, to turn the unfinished structure on the Wisteria Square property into an amphitheater. I am not against your vision. It shows some creativity and positivity, and I'm not knocking that. Glad to see it, however late.  HOWEVER -- If you support this idea, you do not know the whole story. If you just drive by the property, it looks like it only has that bridge on it, and some parking.

Look a little closer. Do you see fire hydrants? Why do you suppose that is?

Well, I'm here to tell you that the vision of having an amphitheater on the Wisteria Square property is "penny wise but pound foolish." The property is already set with water and gas lines.

In the foyer of Snellville City Hall several months back when the city council voted to purchase the property at a garage sale price,  I spoke to Doug Spohn, the original developer of the property. Mr. Spohn told me that the property already has millions of dollars invested in it in just the infrastructure -- all the water and gas lines to code, etc.

In my opinion, it wouldn't make sense to built an amphitheater there and lose out on all the potential the property has for something that is closer to what was originally planned for the lot.

The best analogy I can think of is to imagine that your house has a gorgeous professional chef-grade kitchen in it with all gourmet appliances in it, 3 stainless steel refrigerators, Venetian marble counter-tops and so on, and you want to tear all that out to make a patio. Sure the patio is really nice, but look what you have missed out on. The patio would be better somewhere else on your property.

Well that's why the sound stage should be put on the Snellville Towne Green, the same place where the Snellville Farmers' Market and the Beatles tribute band concert was held, among other great events. It is about location. You want the thousands of people who drive through Snellville to see exciting events happening all the time and stop to find out what all the excitement is about! Visitors need to see the excitement in front of OUR city hall right off of Main Street.  They're not going to crane their necks down Wisteria Drive.

In addition, I believe the Wisteria Square/Wisteria Drive property isn't even coded for such use at this time. I believe it's considered mixed-use/office/professional. It was zoned that way so the development there would be quiet. I haven't been on the city council for 4 years like Kelly Kautz -- I haven't been on the council at all, and even I have a clue about that. I'm surprised the homeowners behind the property aren't upset about the very idea. An amphitheater in that location would be entirely too noisy.

Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Snellville to get stimulus funds

On Tuesday, Gwinnett County Commissioners decided not to put all of the remaining stimulus funds into a Lilburn sports park, instead deciding to divide the allocation among 3 cities: Berkeley Lake, Lilburn, and...SNELLVILLE!
Snellville officials had requested $6.6 million of the recovery zone economic development bonds to use to create “downtown experience.” According to a letter, the city hopes to buy 10.6 acres of recently foreclosed on by the Bank of North Georgia for a future public-private partnership.
[Officials Split Money Between Three Cities - Gwinnett Daily Post, September 21, 2010]
 Wisteria Square/Photo by Darla Dixon
The foreclosed property the article refers to is most likely the property on Wisteria I think of as the "bridge to nowhere" that I blogged about recently.

Here's what Mayor Jerry Oberholtzer had to say about this:  "After only a few days on the job, Snellville's new Economic Development Manager, Eric Van Otteren, has already helped secure possible funding for future initiatives in our downtown. This bonding capacity allows the city to purchase land for parks or other uses in our city center. No decision has been made on IF we'll take advantage of this opportunity or what projects we might use it on."

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

It's NOT Snellville vs Suwanee

Brenda, a contributor over at Talk Gwinnett mentioned Suwanee's Town Center and wrote,
"Snellville City Council Elections are coming up in November. There are those currently on the city council who have actively surpressed development of Snellville's Town Center, which is currenlty [sic] a cleared lot on Wisteria Dr. at Clower St. between the funeral home and the closed Ryan's.

Every Snellville voter should visit the Suwanee Town Center Park and then ask themselves, "Why not in Snellville?".
As far as I've heard, no member of the Snellville City Council has had a problem with the development on Wisteria. Perhaps the lack of development, but not with the development. The development is also called Wisteria Square.

The reason we have the "bridge to nowhere" in that large lot, and a parking lot set up for nothing, is that the developer hasn't been able to get investors yet. It's been well-documented that Doug Spohn has said he hasn't been able to move ahead because of investment issues, and we all know what has happened with the banking industry.

Here is Susan Gast's AJC article 'What's with the bridge in the field? ' dated December 13, 2007. Here is an entry from Mayor Jerry Oberholtzer's blog regarding the development, dated October 24, 2007: 'Wisteria Square on Hold, AJC Reports.'

Excerpt:
City Manager Jim Brooks checked in with developer Doug Spohn on Tuesday to find out what is happening with the property.

“He is still interested,” said Brooks. “He wants to have a certain percentage of it pre-sold prior to coming out of the ground.”
The Snellville Police Department will build a
state-0f-the-art public safety campus
right across the street, and I'm confident that once the police facility gets underway, the developer of Wisteria Square, a work and play development won't have any problem getting takers.

We're all sick of looking at that bare field, but let's put blame where blame belongs...or better yet, not play the blame game at all.


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Thursday, December 13, 2007

Snellville News Alerts: MLK Day, Hwy 78, Wisteria, More

MLK holiday funds held up
Atlanta Journal Constitution - GA, USA
The naysayers were Snellville Mayor Jerry Oberholtzer and council members Tod Warner and Barbara Bender. The deadlock has some city leaders and residents ...

Hotel/shops plan for US 78 would expand on other work
Atlanta Journal Constitution - GA, USA
By MICHAEL PEARSON When developer Emory Morsberger launched his Brookwood Village mixed-use project on US 78 near Snellville, he hoped the project would ...

What's with the bridge in the field?
Atlanta Journal Constitution - GA, USA
The delays are not really related to an oversupply of housing in the Snellville area, as in some areas, he said. It is more the psychological effects of a ...

Albert Chai, 45, championed traditional Chinese dishes
Atlanta Journal Constitution - GA, USA
At his Mah Jong restaurant in Snellville, Mr. Chai's fresh vegetables and perfectly prepared Chinese dishes were a hit with customers. ...

Churches offer taste of Christmases past
Atlanta Journal Constitution - GA, USA
I'm happy to say that after a shopping trip to Snellville today, I heard real Christmas carols in Belk's and Linens & Things! I told the manager of Belk's ...

Gwinnett adds land to new Lee Park site
Duluth Weekly - Duluth,GA,USA
The future Lee Park is located where Five Forks Trickum Road crosses the Yellow River between Snellville and Lilburn. "This land purchase allows us to ...

Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Wisteria Square Development in Snellville

Does anyone know the status of Wisteria Square (the development on Wisteria)...the area has been cleared for a long time, but no building being done?
Why is it stalled?

I seem to remember hearing something about the builder being busy with other projects, but I'm not sure if that is accurate...is it the builder, lack of funds, or what?